Innovate???? Is that what copying the white headphones is? Innovation.

yawn….yeah, like Apple is really forcing people to buy an iPod. Word of mouth is that the iPods work really well …maybe that’s why they sell and not the “cool” factor.

Sure a clip is handy, but the fact still remains; you need to use iTunes. Why people pay more for less functional DAP is beyond me. I like to pay less for more. iRiver FTW.

daimaous article is not, what i will call objective.
fm-tuner? no innovation! any others had this before (even if apple still decides to sell this part as an accessory)
oled-display? no innovation! others had this before. and when i take a look a the ipod and it’s display, it provides a bright picture and wonderful colors
1/2 gb capacity? anything new?
8 hours battery life? no very much, compared to the 24 hours of the nano and the 12 hours of the shuffle. and no innovation either!
and last, but not least, the “real” soundformats? wma? asf? not “real”, but as propreitary as acc. mp3? well, imho a format the ipod can play too. the only exception in this list: ogg (even if this is no innovation too, others did this before iriver came up with its s10) .

you might don’t like ipods (and you might make the fault to compare some technical specs negelecting the usability and thefunctionality even of the whole ipod/ituns-system), but ipods a real good mp3-players in an seemless environment.

How much does the iriver cost, the ipod shuffle 1 gig is only 80$ and it works with my itunes library. Not only has apple never let me down, its stock has also made me alot of money over the past 4 years. Jump on the bandwagon or get run over.